Rules for Planning a Credit Card App O Rama

We don’t pretend to be experts on the subject of credit, but we’ve researched it enough to feel comfortable “spending” a few points of our extremely good credit score to obtain travel bonuses that enable us to get out and see the world, flying for free and staying in free hotels.  Honestly, it’s become a bit of an addiction – the good kind, if there is such a thing.

Family Travel

My family’s 6 RT tickets to Panama – We paid $261 for $4800 in tickets!

First off, the idea of “excellent” credit doesn’t vary much over a score of about 730.  As a general rule, creditors won’t offer any better rate for someone who has a 820 score over someone whose score is 731.  What that means is that I have some buffer room between my current score of 788 and the 750 range.

The reality is that I don’t have any reason to borrow money at the moment, so it’s not like I’m super protective of the score, but I still want to be ready in the event that an opportunity does come up, so I’m better off to play it safe.

As we’ve discussed before in our “Doesn’t it Hurt my Credit” post, the bulk of my credit score is determined by two major measures: 1) Do I make my payments on time? and 2) How much do I have in balances relative to my available credit?  If I take care of both those issues, which I do, diligently, 65% of my score will be rock solid. I always, always make my payment on time, and always make it in full.

The part of my credit that is affected by my free-travel-addiction is relatively small: 1)How many recent credit inquiries have I had? and 2)What is the average length of my credit histories?  Together these pieces account for about 25% of my score.  Even still, I have to keep a close eye on them, especially if I want to keep at this (which I do).

Now, one of the most beautiful factors in the credit score calculations is that the recent inquiries “fall off” after 2 years, so each time those disappear from my credit score, I’ve got an open door to load up again. Also, if I apply for several cards on one day, they won’t see a bunch of recent inquiries and deny me based on that factor.

portobelo panama

My son, conquering the cannon at Portobelo, Panama

I track my credit score with two services, www.CreditSesame.com and www.CreditKarma.com.  Theoretically,  these programs track my Experian and TransUnion scores with the same algorithm that those monitors use to calculate my history into a numerical score.  I don’t trust them implicitly, but I do use them to gauge the impact of my behavior.

Well, about 3 of my inquiries had fallen off recently and I started getting greedy.  Sheldon inspired me with his App O Rama, and I figured it was time for me to get brave, too.  I’ve been at this for quite a while now, and I’ve played it nice and easy, but one of my inspirations has been watching people pull down 5-6 cards at once, making me feel like 1 or 2 was nothing at all.

Rather than list all mine off, I’ll just say that I applied for all the same cards Sheldon did, except I opted for the Barclaycard Frontier Airlines card over the Gold Delta SkyMiles® Credit Card from American Express, just because I’ve already had the Delta card (but canceled it a couple of months ago before it came up for an annual fee).  In the end, I was approved for all 5 cards, and after meeting a spending requirement total of $5250, I’ll add about 300,000 miles and points to my beautiful running total of well over a million.

I did have to “bird-dog” a couple of applications, following up with phone calls and providing some more details to friendly people on the telephone. Incidentally, while I’m telling you about this, I’ll also say that I use a very specific tactic in speaking with customer service reps – I empower them by “asking them to do me a favor.”  Usually it’s just about pushing an application through right away, but I’ve also had success “bumping” my bonuses to higher levels that way, too.  People like to feel like you’re asking them to do something, not telling them to do something.

I’ll just now summarize a few rules for planning an App O Rama that you can use if you plan to get brave. That said, you don’t need to run out and do it this way.  We’d be happy if you just embrace the idea and get started wanderlusting with us with free-travel credit cards.

Rules for a credit card App O Rama

  • Be sure your credit score could handle losing 10-20 points without dropping to a lower tier. It doesn’t mean it will drop that much for sure, but just in case.
  • Know how many inquiries you’ve had, and don’t exceed 20 inquiries in any 2 year period (many people do this by spacing inquiries into 5 cards every 6 months).
  • Try to spread applications to different banks which use different credit monitors.
  • Only apply for 1 Chase card at a time.
  • Don’t take  on more in “minimum spending requirement” than you can do in your normal course of spending.  The moment you spend just to meet a requirement, you’re on the losing end of things.
  • Keep diligent track of what you apply for when, when the min spend req is due, when the cards will have an annual fee, and other important details.  I keep a Google Docs spreadsheet and put alerts on my Google Calendar.
  • Search out the best application links possible.  The offers do vary from site to site, and you get rewarded for diligent research.
  • Follow up by calling right away.  The sooner you can force a decision, the better off your odds are.  If you happen to get denied, call them up and ask for reconsideration.
  • Always apply separately for your spouse, and don’t add a spouse on your account.
  • Know which cards have first year annual fees, and which are waived.  Don’t get yourself on the hook for a bunch of fees.
  • Don’t apply for more credit cards if you’re carrying a balance.  Any time you actually use the cards as credit for money you don’t have and pay interest, you ruin the benefit of gathering the points.
  • Pick the cards you want based on the rewards you want, too. No sense in gathering points you won’t be using.

If you have any other questions or thoughts, we’d love to hear them.  Thanks for visiting, and don’t hesitate to share our site with others.

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St Augustine, Florida: The Most Historic Place in the US

In our recent Florida Roadtrip loop with free Club Carlson Hotels, I raved about the town of St. Augustine, Florida.

Founded in 1565, St. Augustine is the oldest continuously-occupied settlement by Europeans in the continental United States. Its history is rich with mega-characters from every century – Ponce de Leon claimed the region in the early 1500s. It was looted by the British privateer, Robert Searle, in the 1600s.  In the 1700s, it played host to the War of Jenkins’ Ear, and French and Indian War.  In the late years of the 1800s, it was popularized with tourists by the oil baron, Henry Flagler. And in the 1900s it was a theater to the civil rights movement with Martin Luther King, Jr. himself.

Every year, hundreds of thousands of tourists flock to nearby Orlando, Florida, mainly families, taking their children to see the theme parks, while only thousands take the opportunity to visit St. Augustine. I’m going to urge you to be among them.

Panorama of the Castillo de San Marcos fort in...

Panorama of the Castillo de San Marcos fort in St. Augustine, Florida, USA. It was made with Hugin by merging four pictures. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The main attraction is, of course, the fort – Castillo San Marcos, built by the Spaniards in 1672, the oldest of its kind in North America. If you’ve seen these before, they don’t vary much, but nonetheless, there’s nothing like standing near an ancient cannon, which may have hardly budged in rigid defense over some 400 years.

Flagler College in St. augustine, Florida, USA...

Flagler College in St. augustine, Florida, USA This image was created with hugin. Flagler College.jpg (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The old Ponce De Leon hotel (built by Rockefeller partner, Henry Flagler), is now Flagler College, and was built in a time in which money wasn’t as much an object as was building something that would shock and awe the senses of visitors. So, yes, today… some 120 years later, your senses will be both shocked and awed.

The newly re-conditioned Colonial Quarter living history museum will transport you back in time to the Spanish colonial period – with demonstrations of blacksmithing, woodworking, and a visit to the record-keeper whose tales are as intriguing as his calligraphy is ornate.

You’ll be entreated to a variety of palatal pleasures as ethnic foods have converged here over centuries.  Take your pick from British pubs, Spanish cafes, or Caribbean cantinas.  Of course, as with any tourist trap, fudge shops and ice cream parlors also abound.

I’m leaving out so much – you could board a pirate ship, stroll the beach, or window shop in quaint stores along cobblestone walkways.  There are other museums and mesmerizing bits of history. It’s really just something you’ll have to see for yourself – and something you can do with free hotels if you follow read our post:  Florida Roadtrip loop with free Club Carlson Hotels.

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Whirlpool Jet Boat Tours

Last week we showed you an easy way to take a vacation visiting Niagara Falls, NY and Toronto, Canada.  With a few points and miles your vacation costs are cut down significantly.  Thereby making your vacation possible, rather than expensive.

Now that you’ve got the trip planned for your hotels and airfare, you need some fun ideas of things to do along your trip.  For all the thrill seekers out there I’ve got an easy recommendation.  It will require everyone to get absolutely soaking, so don’t wear your white shirt!

Whirlpool Jet Boat Experience

niagara river

My Friends and I preparing for the Tour

The Whirlpool Jetboat Tours of the Niagara River is a wild ride.  In fact, it’s the most wild water ride I’ve ever taken.  The jetboat takes you down the river and gives you views of the beautiful canyon that comes after the falls.  Many people only explore the falls (which are stunning), but most people aren’t able to see the stunning canyons.

Fortunately you’ve saved so much on the hotels and airfare, that you’ll be able to afford this $61 experience.  Book this in advance of your trip, because it is possible that the boats are full if you try to buy your tickets on arrival.   You’ll never forget drinking from the Niagara River.

This company has three different tours, but I’m going to recommend the most exciting one, which leaves out of Lewiston, NY.  Once they take you on a tour of the river and the canyon they show you the power of the jetboat. With everyone seated they’ll show you how it can easily do a 360 with the agility of a jet ski.  As you cruise down the river you’ll pass by a couple of class 5 rapids (change depending on the flow of the river) that will blow your mind.

 Those sitting in the front seats might consider bringing a neck brace, to avoid injury, because going up a class 5 rapid is more powerful than going down.  The grannies in the back row barely get wet, so you can pick the seat that best accommodates you.  If you want the front seat, then you’ll probably have to show up early and fight with five 20 year old kids who might want it more than you.

 

Class 5 rapid

Hitting the wave!

I think the picture explains it all, but of course, my friends and I chose the very front row and screamed throughout the entire ride.  I clearly recall Matt screaming, “I’m not even wet yet.  When are we gonna get wet!” at the top of his lungs.  He’s the crazy kid taking the wave head on!

Our driver loved our screaming so much that he even performed an encore performance of the largest rapid.  The guide who explained everything about the river wondered if we were all shattered because we were acting belligerent.  Little did she know….we were all as sober as kindergarteners.

When the ride finally came to a stop I realized that I’ve never felt so wet in my life.  Even though it was a warm summer day that we took the trip, we all felt frozen because we were wet to the bone.  We changed our clothes and were able to enjoy some stunning views of the falls, but we appreciated them much more after having felt the wrath of the river.

Don’t forget to score the hotel points that will give you the free hotels so you can afford the Whirlpool Jet Boat Tour!

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Florida Family Vacation Roadtrip with Free Club Carlson Hotels

Our self-declared niche in the travel-rewards-blogosphere is to demonstrate amazing value in points redemption – lining out incredible itineraries which may actually cost you less than living at home.  One of our favorite methods is to develop “loops” – roadtrip plans that will take you from free hotel to free hotel and provide you with infinite opportunity to experience the world in all its grandeur.  It suits us, you see, because we’re a bit stir crazy… we’re the kind who dream of our next vacation while on our current vacation. Some people think that makes us insane.  We think that makes us WorldWanderlusters.

In any case, we want you to come along.  There’s nothing we’d like more than to get your trip report from exactly this kind of itinerary.  This is a perfect way to meld the traditional Disney family vacation with some historical site-seeing and other meaningful experiences.

In our Club Carlson post, we extolled the program for its uber-generous “last night free” bonus when you have the CC Premier Rewards Card.  We said that to maximize your rewards, you book a series of 2-night stays, paying your hard(ly) earned points only for the first night.  We selected all category 2 hotels so you can plan on spending 60k of your free points on 8 free nights in 4 hotels.

Of course, we wouldn’t want you to fret about airfare, either, though – so be sure to check out our post on how to Fly to Orlando for Free.

Florida roadtrip

Considerations:

  •  You may want to fly into any of these cities. Book your flights based on how cheaply you can get them (by cheap, of course, I mean “fewest points…” I wouldn’t be recommending that you actually pay money for a flight, right)?
  • Another factor may be the cost of your car rental.  Sometimes you can get incredibly great rates in Orlando and Tampa.  I’ve paid under $13 a day at times!
  • Whenever possible, we’re recommending Country Inn & Suites hotels, which, in addition to being free and very comfortable, also provide free breakfast! You can plan on having one other cheap meal per day and one “splurge” meal.
  • There are two other category 2 CC hotels in the Orlando area.  You could hop from hotel to hotel and spend more time in Orlando.

For our purposes, though, let’s assume that you fly in and out of Orlando.  It will make the logistics a little easier because we’ll say we stay at the Orlando hotel on the first night and the Kissimmee property on the way out.

 

Florida Family Vacation: Orlando

 

As much as you try, you’ll likely arrive into Orlando late.  If you happen to get in a little earlier, you may want to

 

Cinderella Castle at the Magic Kingdom, Walt D...

Cinderella Castle at the Magic Kingdom, Walt Disney World Resort (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

For tonight and the next night, you’ll be staying at the Country Inn & Suites Universal Orlando, which, in addition to that free breakfast we mentioned, also has shuttle service to the theme parks (saving you at least another $15 in parking costs).

Here are your options for Day 1:

  •  Walt Disney World
  • SeaWorld
  • Universal Studios
  • Epcott Center

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On day 2, you’re already on the move.  Don’t worry, you’ll circle back to the Orlando area.  Get your bags packed and head East.  Today you can take your pick or do both:

Keep cruising and you’ll get to your hotel in Jacksonville just in time to crash and recoup your energy.

 

Florida Family Vacation: Jacksonville

In Jacksonville, you’ll stay at the Country Inn & Suites Jacksonville.

On day 3 you’ve got choices again, but I’m going to strongly recommend you backtrack a bit to St. Augustine – the oldest settlement in the United States – a destination which merits its own post, but for now this will have to suffice: http://www.ci.st-augustine.fl.us/

  • St. Augustine
  • If you skipped Daytona, maybe opt for a day at Atlantic Beach or Ponte Vedra Beach
  • Take an Airboat ride or a Dolphin tour with http://www.crazyfishjax.com/ (You’re staying for free, so maybe you could splurge on something like this).
  • The Jacksonville Zoo and Garden has rave reviews

After another free night and complimentary breakfast, you have the choice of catching up on something you missed the day before, or getting on the road right away for day 4.  This will be your longest drive, though you can break it up with a detour through the Ocala National Forest (where you could do some great little hikes)or hustle into Tampa to get going on your adventures there.

Florida Family Vacation: Tampa

In Tampa you’ll be staying at the Country Inn & Suites Tampa East, a little outside of town, but great nonetheless.

Tampa is a great area.  There are all kinds of things that could keep you busy here, but here are a few options.

Again, the next morning you have the option of catching up on what you missed the day before, or moving on right away.

Florida Family Vacation: Back in Orlando

Kissimmee Country Inn & SuitesThe hotel in Kissimmee is a really nice place – a destination in it’s own right with a pool that looks like a waterpark.  Maybe you’d like to spend some time at the pool, or maybe you can get right back at it, visiting the many sites in Orlando.  You can choose from anything you missed the first day in Orlando, or maybe some of these:

There’s no doubt that you’ll leave some things undone… no way to see it all in a place like Orlando, but all in all, you will have had a tremendous experience at a fraction of a fraction of what you would have expected to pay.

This is exactly what we want to train you to do, and we’re glad you stopped by our site.  Please subscribe to our email list so that we can keep you posted on these kinds of opportunities.

If you liked this idea, you might like some of our other loop trips we’ve posted about in the past.

Thanks for Florida wanderlusting with us.

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Niagara Falls Vacation

Waterfalls are majestic places.  They are usually the backdrop of some amazing kiss on the Bachelor as one of the girls says “I could fall in love here.”  If only we spent more time kissing our lover in front of waterfalls maybe life would be better than it is.  Well, we have found a way for you to take your lover on a wonderful Niagara Falls Vacation that they’ll never forget.  Check it out.

How to Get to Your Niagara Falls Vacation

Niagara Falls

Niagara Falls (Photo credit: moarplease)

This amazing waterfall is located right on the border between the US and Canada.  Luckily we share this with them and didn’t lose the whole thing, because it is definitely a sight to be seen.

Taking a bus or train to Niagara Falls would be a nightmare!  You’re obviously going to fly.  You’ve got a couple of options:

Buffalo, New York (BUF) is the closest airport to the falls.  It is serviced by all of the major airliners: American, Delta, United, US Airways, JetBlue, Southwest(soon), and a few other small airliners.

  • It will take you 25,000 miles on Delta, United, and American to get to Buffalo, NY.
  • If you’ve got the US Airways credit card then it will only take 20,000 of your US Air miles.
  • With Southwest it will depend on where you’re coming from as far as calculating your Rapid Rewards requirements.
Toronto Skyline

Toronto Skyline (Photo credit: Bobolink)

Toronto, Canada (YYZ) isn’t super close to the falls, but it is within two hours.  You could easily make a little trip to both locations and add a little Canadian flair to your vacation.

  • All of the big US Carriers will also charge you 25,000 miles for your trip to our northern neighbor.
  • Keep in mind that the taxes are more expensive flying into Canada than they would be if you flew into Buffalo, NY.  A quick estimation of taxes flying into Canada showed $86, vs only being charged $10 into Buffalo, NY.
  • Toronto is a much larger airport, which means you have a better possibility of getting into here than Buffalo as they have many more flights.

Whether you fly into Buffalo or Toronto, you’ll still have to pay the baggage fees unless you’re sporting one of the American, Delta, or United cards that waive the baggage fees.

Where to Stay on Your Niagara Falls Vacation


Paying for hotels for me is always a bummer.  That is why I stopped paying for hotels.  If you’re paying for hotels STOP IT.

Here are some amazing hotels that you can get for free with the Starwood Preferred Guest Credit Card.  This is one of the many reasons that you need to get the SPG Amex card.

Four Points By Sheraton Niagara Falls–  While this is still on the water, it isn’t waterfall front property, but it is close enough.  They’ve got an indoor heated pool for the swimmers who don’t want to take a dip in the river.

In Toronto you’ve got two hotels to choose from.  The Four Points By Sheraton Toronto Airport is right next to the airport for the ease of getting in and out.  Releasing the tension of returning your rental car the night before and getting a good nights rest is always a relief, and it can save you one more day on your rental car if you do it that way.  Their 24 hour shuttle will pick you up or drop you off for the ease of getting to the airport too.

The Four Points by Sheraton Toronto Mississauga is another option that isn’t too far from the airport either.

Basically you can score free nights at all three of these hotels while burning only 3-4k points per night.  The SPG card comes with 10k with your first purchase and another 15k once you’ve spent $5000 within the first six months of becoming a cardmember.  That gives you 25,000 Starpoints in total.

With your 25,000 you could stay two weekend nights and six weeknights at these hotels with one card. That gives you eight total nights that can be valued over $120 per night.  That puts the total value of the SPG card bonus at $960 and would give you an incredible Niagara Falls Vacation.  What are you waiting for? Wanderlust with us!


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Free Travel Sounds too Good to be True

More often than not, our enthusiasm about free travel with credit card rewards is met with skepticism. A very common line of thought is that credit cards are dangerous. The world has rightly taught us that anything that sounds too good to be true, is. The probable conclusion for most people, then, is that you risk too much in applying for credit cards for the reward that is given.

Free TravelWe have to contend with spammers who wallpaper Facebook and website sidebars with fake offers of free iPads, Southwest flights, and Disneyland tickets. Naturally, we get lumped in with these clowns despite our clamors of innocence and even people who know us well and comment on our photos with wistful wishes don’t truly understand just how real and easy all of this is.

As someone who has racked up more than $10,000 in free travel rewards in the past two years while my credit score has increased, I’m telling you that credit card travel rewards are real and obtainable.  In fact, it’s remarkable how little effort is required relative to the benefits. You only have to be willing to spend the time and effort to make it happen.

You see, somewhere in the world there’s an experiment going on right now. To the practitioners (usually teenagers), it’s a hilarious game, but it’s really a psychological experiment.  It’s called “Poop Dollar,” and it consists of wiping currency with excrement, placing it in a public place, and monitoring passersby.  It’s generally played with one-dollar bills and the reason is that it lasts a little longer that way.  We’re all inclined to stoop down and pick up money – happily singing the “finders-keepers, losers-weepers” refrain in our head.  Yet at the moment we realize that a Washington has been sullied by a smelly substance, we’re likely to quickly cut it loose – “I’m not going to submit myself to that for a buck…” they pitch it to the ground and the game begins anew.  However, at some point, there’s a guy out there… a guy who’s willing to cope with the crap in order to enrich himself – even if it’s only by $1.  At that point, the giggling teenagers have to dig into their pockets to continue the game.

The point I want to make in this is that at some level, all of us would be willing to deal with a little hassle for free money.  Honestly, I’d drop the dollar, but it doesn’t take much more to get me to capitulate… at the five-dollar level, I’d snatch it up and promptly take it to the sink (I know, there’s something wrong with me).  At the 20-dollar level, I’d not only grab it, but I’d also dance a jig.

How much hassle are you willing to endure for free travel?

The bulk of the “hassle” for what we’re showing you to do consists of these three things:

  1. Learning the system – seeing what offers are out there, how much rewards are worth, and what rewards will take you the places you want to go.
  2. Applying for cards and other promotions.
  3. Responsibly using your purchases to meet spending requirements and other terms of promotions, diligently monitoring, and paying your balances in full.

A commitment to take on these duties won’t take much more than a fraction of the attention you give one of your other hobbies – but you’re also afraid of what you’ll risk.

What do you Risk?

This is the most important question to ask yourself.  If the answer to this question is, “not being able to get a mortgage for the home we’d like to buy,” or “accruing thousands of dollars in debt that will strangle us,” then don’t think another second about it… it’s not for you.  But the reality is that to at least some degree, you control these risks.

We always advise people to never make purchases on a credit card that they would not make with cash.  We also urge followers to pay off balances on time and in full.  The moment you miss a payment or have to pay interest is the moment you lose and they win.

Even paying your accounts on full and in time, though, there’s a chance that seeking these rewards will cost you some points off your credit score in the form of recent inquires and/or the average length of time you have your accounts open.  Any time you’ll be needing your credit for important purchases, you’re better off playing it safe.

Now, given all that, we want you to know that this blog is about travel advice, not financial advice.  We’re cultivating a following of travel-thirsty wanderlusters.

Calculate the Value of the Reward

I understand that not everyone has the unquenchable desire to see the world that Sheldon and I have… and that’s okay.  But free flights and free hotels have some value to everyone.  Maybe the only reason you want to travel is to visit friends… Even so, these rewards have real, tangible value to you.

As we’ve mentioned, we like to calculate the value of hotel rewards by the number of Category 2 hotels the bonus will obtain for us.  We like to look at flight rewards in terms of the number of domestic flights (though we have a habit of looking outside the US for travel adventure).

In any case, what you know what you risk and what the potential reward is, you’ll be in the position to make a rational decision… unless you’re of the female gender… in which case your decision will still be an emotional one (teasing, teasing, teasing… our favorite WW fans are women).

I am telling you, once you start to grasp the amount of money that is out there for the taking, you’ll be obsessed with the hunt… you’ll be seized by “wanderlust…” interestingly enough, that’s exactly our objective.  But if it comes at the cost of your financial stability, that’s not what we’re after.  We want you to use your credit responsibly – that is of paramount importance.

To offer just a taste, here are some of our recent success stories.

What are your success stories?  Where are you headed?  How much are you saving?  We’d love to hear your comments.

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My First App O Rama

Now that I’ve been following the points and miles train for three years I’m feeling pretty confident about how it all works.  I’ve watched many people pull off these ‘crazy’ App O Rama’s where they apply for multiple credit cards in one day.

I decided to make the plunge on Friday and complete my very first App O Rama.  I zeroed in on five sweet cards that were going to produce 285,000 miles.  That basically amounts to five round trip tickets in the USA and roughly 15 category 2 night hotels.  Here is the summary of my first big one.

Card Bank Credit Agency Bonus Spending Req Time Limits Fee
The US Airways Premier World MasterCard® Barclaycard TransUn 40k $1 None $89*
Gold Delta Amex Experian 30k $1000 3 Mo $95*
American Citi Card Citi Experian 50k $3,000 4 Mo $85*
Club Carlson Card US Bank Experian 85k $2,500 3 Mo $75
Priority Club Card Chase Experian 80k $1,000 3 Mo $49*
Totals 285k 7,001

The US Airways card that I got is no longer available.  The one listed above is our affiliate link (that we get paid a commission on) and has an $89 annual fee, but is still the best one I could find available.

As you can see, I’m planning on scoring a bonus of 285k points and miles over the course of the next three months.  One annual fee comes the first year, and all the others are waived for the first year.

Why would anyone do an App O Rama?

The whole idea behind an App O Rama is timing.  Applying for multiple cards in one day prevents each of the issuers to realize that others have approved you on the same day.  This would prevent them from declining you because of the reason “Too many inquiries.”

For this reason it is really important that you get each of the cards approved on the day in which you apply.  If they wait a couple of days, then they’ll see the other inquiries and potentially turn you down.

My App O Rama Results

Card Decision Reason Result
US Airways Card Pending Unknown Approved
Delta Gold Approved N/A Approved
American Citi Card Pending Address Approved
Club Carlson Approved N/A Approved
Priority Club Pending Recent Inquiries Approved

How long does an App O Rama take?

You better budget about two hours for your App O Rama.  Filling out all of the applications can take some time, but the larger issue is taking the time to be sure that you’re approved.  As you can see I had to make a few calls to the reconsideration lines to make sure that all of the cards were approved on the same day.

The two hours should give you enough time to submit your App O Rama applications and call the reconsideration lines.  For me it was almost a thrill.  My blood pressure definitely went up a few ticks during the process as I anticipated the approvals from each of the companies.  Upon arrival at my house I told my wife that I had just applied for five credit cards.  Her response, “Wow.  That sounds great!”

Most people’s spouses would probably strangle their partner, but my wife has been along for the ride long enough that it isn’t a big deal at this point.  She doesn’t study this stuff like I do, but she goes along with my judgement (and the free trips).

Why and how to get approved for your applications

I was nervous because of my recent mortgage and a business credit card that I had gotten in November that they might not be excited about me.  I called Barclaycard first and found out that their reconsideration line was closed!  Oh no.  Fortunately about an hour later I received an email and they told me that I had been approved for the card.  I called and got an automated system that told me that I’d be getting my 40,000 Dividend Miles with the first purchase.  Great Success!

I then moved to the Priority Club card with Chase.  The lady who answered the phone was very friendly, but told me that I’d had quite a bit of activity lately (mortgage, business card, and a few other inquiries).  She asked if I would be willing to wait the normal 5-7 business days to get approved for the cards.  I politely asked if she could just review the information and make a decision today.  She put me on hold and came back with an approval!  Great Success.

My final call was to Citibank for the American Airlines card.  After verifying my information she told me that my address was not being verified in the system.  I explained that she might use my business address instead and see if it would verify better than my home address.  She put me on hold and came back with an approval after she was able to verify my business address.

Who should NOT do an App O Rama?

People with bad credit or no credit should avoid the App O Rama phase until they’ve built up an established credit.  I’ve got 8 years of credit and I’ve never missed a payment.  My score was a 760 upon starting this thing, and I’ll let you know as it goes forward if it is affected by the applications.

Who should do an App O Rama?

If you’re one of those people like me who have a great score, long credit history, and you love to travel, then this might be something you should try.  Building up over 200,000 miles in one whack is definitely a way to get cracking on planning your next trip.

This process isn’t going to last forever, and you’ve already missed too many deals if you haven’t been participating in it yet.  If you feel more comfortable starting with one credit card, do that.  At least get started with something.  Once the points start rolling in and your free trips begin, then you’ll know you’ve hit the jackpot.

 

 

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